I read an article the other day in Market Leader that basically had a go at communications in general and ad agencies specifically for falling far short of their claims to be 'partners' with their clients and generally having little commercial acumen or real world business experience.The article also has a go at planners, for example the quote, "Most agency planners don't understand the dynamics of business – they are about communications'. 

On the face of it, I can't disagree with much of that. On the other hand, I'm not sure this is the problem.

Sometimes I do wonder if the problem with agencies on a macro level is trying to be commercial at all. Agency people are different to client people and this is a good thing. We can do what they can't and to be honest, they can do what we can't too.

I'm lucky enough to own a house. There are things I can do to it to keep it looking okay and even repair the odd thing. I can just about paint, I can fix a shelf. Can do plumbing? Can do the wiring? Can I draw the plans to my extension? No.I hire people who devoted considerable time to learn their craft and do nothing else for a living.

It's no different with agencies and agency people and their clients. I have tremendous respect for most cleints and all the things they do I,to be honest would rather slit my wrists than do all day. 

The article implied that agencies having no MBA's in them was a bad thing. Why the hell do I need an MBA? Do clients need to done the APG Network to have a reasonable conversation about comms strategy?

But I and my colleagues in departments can do things they cannot. If they give us genuine business issues, we can apply understanding their customers and what they care about, leaps of imagination, technology ideas, empathy whole brain thinking to solving them.

We fill each others gaps. Just as planning suits and creatives should do the same (with a healthy blur).

The mistake agencies made wasn't being commercial enough it was trying to convince clients they were just like them and sell them linear, reliable, professional process. When great stuff really comes from chaos and serendipity.

The bit that's fair in my view is that bit about planners wanting to just talk about communications. I'd apply that to agencies too. Communications solutions, brand solutions (is there such a thing? Really?) start with business issues. At some point, mostly before I started in this business (but not entirely) agencies started having conversations about how to solve a pre-defined communications problem, rather than using creativity to solve a genuine business problem.

Somehow we colluded with the madness of only measuring brand health and other softm namby pamby targets.

I don't know who started this.Was it clients? Was it agencies? But as things stand, it's not entirely fair to just point the finger at agencies. So many briefs these days have much of the big strategy done, by peopl without the creative skill to do it well – clients and reduce planners to 'execution tweakers'. Some planners are complicit in this of course and become 'shrills for the work' but to be honest, many clients don't want to have a conversation about anything else.

That doesn't mean of course that we should give in.We'll only get 'upstream' if we start adding value, asked for or not and going beyond the tight briefs we tend to get. Asked for or not, taking to understand where the profits are, where revenue tends to come from and what the board cares about.

But that doesn't mean beautiful lies about being business partners. It means doing what the other cannot and fully appreciating the other.

Yes, agencies need to grow up and want to have business conversations, but then if clients only want talk about communications there seems little point.

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10 responses to “The charade of agency people as business people”

  1. tom Avatar
    tom

    Good stuff – I had a look but couldn’t find, you don’t happen to have a link to the article do you?

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  2. Tofan Avatar
    Tofan

    Hi Andrew, thanks for the post. I somehow believe that it seems that clients expect the agency strategic planners to solve strategic business problem instead of strategic communication problem. Based on personal experience, I believe this problem originates from clients who are too lazy or stupid to do their own homework and expect their agency planners to solve that for them.

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  3. Rob Mortimer Avatar

    I think planners are well placed to tackle business issues, but if we are to do that we need to be involved early rather than being given a brief at the end of the process. Of course we can’t fix a business issue if we only know about it at the end.
    Sorry to use a football metaphor, but just because you are a defender doesn’t mean you can’t score goals like a striker; but to get the best you have to use them right and let them work together.

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  4. northern Avatar
    northern

    Tom, there doesn’t seem to be a digital version anywhere. I could scan and email if you like. Don’t I can publish it here – copyright and all that
    Tofan – you are a lucky man if that’s the case. I wish I had more lazy clients like that. The ‘big ones’ tend to brief us after elaborate brand consultancy/Millward Brown histrionics while the small just want some ads/website etc. There is a minority, and I love them. Goes to show how different experiences lead to different views
    Rob – I agree, but I think planners more and more are fining the need to earn their place in those upstream conversations. I’m just not sure if enought want to, so clients don’t bother asking, or clients pigeonhole the ‘ad people’ ‘digital people’ or whatever. The latter is much of my experience with the bigger companies

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  5. Rob Mortimer Avatar

    I think it’s better with smaller clients who appreciate the added value, whereas big clients feel the need to ‘brand consult’ everything.
    I think in some cases too, the client fears that getting the agency involved in business will make them look bad… “Why are you getting the creative people involved in our sales plan Jim?!”

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  6. Paul H. Colman Avatar

    Having worked both sides, I think agency people need to be careful what they wish for – the water is not necessarily more desirable ‘upstream’.

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  7. northern Avatar
    northern

    Yep good point, I’d love to know what you think the main differences are and how it’s helped you doing what you do now.
    That aside, I’m not suggesting upstream means getting the nitty gritty of product management etc, I guess I mean proper conversation about what what what problem we’re supposed to be solving, rather than ‘increase brand familiarity’
    Having collaborated recently with a couple of brand managers on their marketing plans, I was more than a little impatient to get to the comms planning

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  8. Andrea Avatar
    Andrea

    I think despite not having the ‘real business’ experience it’s pretty good to be aware of things. It’s a bit weird for clients to say people in agencies should have MBAs but I can see how it would be disheartening for a client to meet a planner or account manager who has no interest in how they operate as a business.
    It’s probably not MBAs that they want, it sounds more like a desperate cry for empathy. Empathy breeds curiosity about how things work: the company, the industry, the larger competitive environment etc. and it still allows you to get on with comms planning rather than dwell on fixing business problems or having to identify them. So perhaps it’s good to ‘be aware of’ and reassure people you are and just say so at the beginning of a relationship, before it’s too late and you’re pigeonholed. It may well be a case of an honest ‘I’ve been trying to understand you more and I have a few questions’ (before we move on to what I’m really interested in – comms planning). The answer will probably say a lot. But I don’t think anyone will shoot you for being interested in their company & its broader business environment. If it’s passive aggressive and you get pigeonholed, it’s sad. But who knows.
    Having said that I went to a business school so we were fed these things on a daily basis – and it’s hard to know what other planners don’t know and why clients don’t like them, like your article might suggest.

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  9. John Dodds Avatar

    But don’t we all feel a little helpless when hiring a plumber or similar who’s working in an area we know nothing about. Are we about to be taken for a ride or worse?
    On that basis, I’d argue that everyone would be better off with a level of numeracy, some knowledge of economics and parts of an MBA curriculum. But that’s all stuff that needs to be layered over something more human – the possession of an MBA isn’t a rubber stamp of commercial expertise. Though mine obviously is.

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  10. northern Avatar
    northern

    I agree but as you say, the level of numeracy, MBA modules is ‘some’ not ‘all’.

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